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Tonight @eyebeamnyc-#ArtsTech: Digital Conservation and Archiving, ft. EAI’s Media Art Collection Manager Desiree Leary http://www.meetup.com/Arts-Culture-and-Technology/events/67451062/0
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#artstech at eyebeam. Love the space, and awesome show.0
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Digital culture is inadvertently being discarded b/c hardware & software problems & human error #artstech0
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Mac Sad Face RT @JennetteM: Digital culture is inadvertently being discarded b/c hardware & software problems & human error #artstech0
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#artstech I lost two laptops and an external drive in 2009. It was literally all of my offline data. Heartbreaking but cathartic.0
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The onus of preservation is shifting towards the creator via @eai_org #ArtsTech0
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RT @danieltbrennan: Thought: Do open file formats ensure longevity? Or is popularity a more important factor? #artstech0
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“anticipate trying to find a file in 5 years” pro tips from @eai_org #ArtsTech -makes me dread organizing my v. Cryptic dropbox file trees0
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#artstech He’s so dreamy.0
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Preservation at @rhizomedotorg been going on for 1 yr and a half #artstech0
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Fresh off the presses (?): a new approach to tackle archive backlogs from @rhizomedotorg #ArtsTech0
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Addressing link rot. #ArtsTech0
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#artstech Mmm “link rot.” Love the way that sounds.0
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Emacs on screen #ArtsTech drool.0
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What is “wget”? #artstech0
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What does “crawling” a work mean? #artstech0
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i have no idea what you’re talking about #ArtsTech0
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I think it’s interesting how many people got lost by @benfinoradin by the high level computer terms used #ArtsTech0
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#artstech @benfinoradin mentions efforts undertaken to archive a piece by @jodify. Windows!! JavaScript!!0
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Nerdery via commandline as @benfinoradin illustrates the process of crawling/indexing as first step to tackle archive backlogs #ArtsTech0
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Oh wow Netscape #TimeTravel #ArtsTech0
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“Link rot is only half the battle” #rhizome #media #archaeology #ArtsTech Artistic intent in web changes as technology changes. Paradox.0
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Where automation works: understanding scope & capturing static work. Where it fails w/dynamic content a collab w/artist is backup #ArtsTech0
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Cory Arcangel’s Data Diaries looks totally different on Chrome than it did when it was made. Need for emulators #artstech0
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RT @katoogin: “Link rot is only half the battle” #rhizome #media #archaeology #ArtsTech Artistic intent in web changes as technology changes. Paradox.0
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Emulation requires onsite access. Meaning you have to have access to the artist’s site? or Rhizome’s? #artstech0
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“Nerdery” = the word I was looking for! Fascinating. MT@KelaniNichole: @benfinoradin crawling/indexing 1st step to archiving #ArtsTech0
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Archives become a ‘record’ w/rich metadata about the artwork, software/environments and other dependencies #ArtsTech0
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Anyone recall Variable Media @Guggenheim included storage, emulation, migration, and reinterpretation, from back in the day (1999) #artstech0
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#metadata #metadata #metadata #metadata #metadata #metadata #metadata #metadata get it trending!
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GREAT news! When it’s done, archives will be available w/open access + FREE 😀 via @benfinoradin of @rhizomedotorg #ArtsTech0
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cc @benfinoradin lulz RT @jeanettehayes: i have no idea what you’re talking about #ArtsTech0
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#artstech @benfinoradin says if you have questions hit him up on twitter. Much better than “find me afterwards.”0
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Christiane Paul up now. Love her! #artstech0
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Yes! RT @rflouty Anyone recall Variable Media @Guggenheim storage, emulation, migration, and reinterpretation (1999) #ArtsTech0
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Holy crap! I did work for Douglas Davis back in college (after collaborative sentence) #ArtsTech0
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RT @VAJIAJIA: That’s so metadata #ArtsTech0
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Christiane Paul: Douglas Davis’s Longest Sentence earliest #netart collected by museum 1994 #artstech0
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Raise your hand if you feel, for the first time in your life, not nerdy enough to properly follow this conversation. #ArtsTech0
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@VAJIAJIA not gonna lie my brain hurts a lil. #artstech0
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@VAJIAJIA I actually looked around the room to see if any hands went up 😉 #ArtsTech0
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@VAJIAJIA Turning in nerd credentials for recycling. #ArtsTech0
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@VAJIAJIA honestly, i’m amped we’re ramping up the conversation here. bring on the nerdery. #ArtsTech0
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@VAJIAJIA I’m actually getting most of it – what does this mean??!!!
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@artfagcity @vajiajia it was surprising to go from “use descriptive file names” to screen scraping with python libraries. #ArtsTech0
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Sorry #artstech! Did we turn the nerdery up to 11 and make your brains bleed? Hopefully some of it resonates!0
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@juliaxgulia We should have #ArtsTech office hours for slower kids in the class i.e. me @MetEveryday @ManBartlett @artfagcity0
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@juliaxgulia brain def not bleeding, broad smile on my face that discussion is going to this level, THANKS! #ArtsTech0
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Whitney ArtPort: the museum’s portal to net art http://ArtPort.whitney.org #ArtsTech0
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Linkrot predictably identified as a huge problem. #artstech0
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“CGI script” – haven’t heard that for a while.
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1994 precursor to twitter: Douglas Davis’ basic binaries. ‘World’s first collaborative sentence’ – now in the @whitneymuseum #ArtsTech0
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‘we replaced the human w/PHP’ @benfinoradin on the process of archiving a linkrot ridden piece ca 1994 #ArtsTech0
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Reliving the 90’s at #ArtsTech panel on digital preservation #LinkRot booooo!0
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Let the links rot?
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#artstech From now on I’m going to make work exclusively in GooleWave.0
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LOL RT @ManBartlett: #artstech From now on I’m going to make work exclusively in GooleWave.0
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@douglasdavis ‘collaborative sentance’ 1994 first net art to be part of museum collection. @whitneymuseum @christanepaul. #artstech0
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#artstech In general I just have such beef with all the clinging to legacy… What do we “save?” Why?0
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@ManBartlett if you don’t have proof that it happened, it never happened. hence, archiving. #ArtsTech0
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.@kgunette Exactly. Hence the clinging to the delusion of the importance of legacy. #artstech0
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@ManBartlett i see what you just did there. 😉 #ArtsTech0
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#artstech Semi-beef aside, definitely appreciating the tech/nerd heavy tone tonight. Making me hungry again. #snackstech0
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Wondering why archive efforts don’t preserve archaic software/hardware in an attempt to extend the life of artwork, <3 old tech! #ArtsTech0
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Managing metadata is the future. Christiane Paul #artstech0
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“Forging the Future” initiative allows various archives to be linked, cc: Christiane Paul #ArtsTech0
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Need to spend time w/ @v2unstable http://www.v2.nl/. #digitalpreservation #artstech #digitalcuration #musetech0
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“Managing metadata but need servers to link up the data” Christiane Paul #artstech0
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I miss classes with c.paul @ #thenewschool best proff they got, well, her and @funksoup #artstech0
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Christiane Paul identifies 4 approaches, two of which I typed out in time: emulation, reinterpretation. Anyone get the first two? #artstech0
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Excited about resources available from #forgingthefuture http://forging-the-future.net/. #artstech #digitalpreservation #digitalcuration0
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4 strategies for digital art preservation by variable media questionnaire: storage, migration, emulation & reinterpretation #artstech0
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DAMD if you do, DAMD if you don’t. #ArtsTech New school prof. Christiane Paul discusses Forging the Future & archiving digital art assets.0
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The “Variable Media Questionnaire” standardizes questions for artists in regards to archiving digital art works – Christiane Paul #ArtsTech0
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We’re up to the challenge though! MT @juliaxgulia: Sorry #artstech! Did we turn the nerdery up to 11 and make your brains bleed?0
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RT @artfagcity: Managing metadata is the future. Christiane Paul #artstech0
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Getting conservators into artist interviews to establish intent is crucial – v impressed with recent work by http://INCCA-NA.org #ArtsTech0
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I am now purposely zoning out so I don’t understand the presentation thereby saving myself from nerdity.
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4 approaches to conservation: documentation & migration, emulation and migration. #artstech thx @benfinoradin0
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Wow. http://Variablemediaquestionnaire.net/demo Inventory your digital assets for longevity. #ArtsTech0
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@artfagcity @vajiajia next time I’m feeling sheepish re:an artworld reference, I’ll recall this moment of personal ‘get it’ness #ArtsTech0
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#variablemediaquestionnaire from #forgingthefuture http://variablemediaquestionnaire.net/. #artstech #musetech #digitalpreservation0
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@VAJIAJIA @juliaxgulia @meteveryday @artfagcity I would SO be kicked out first. #MadQuestions #artstech0
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Christiane Paul should be an avatar in Cory Arcangel’s next project #ArtsTech0
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There’s an odd irony in having a presentation on “Digital Preservation” formatted as a Flash swf file. #artstech0
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@jonnymoon nothing says archivable like a propriety format on the decline #ArtsTech0
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@ManBartlett we’ll start slow: this is a website… #ArtsTech cc:@VAJIAJIA @juliaxgulia @meteveryday @artfagcity0
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Tomorrow our registrars learn about the variable media questionnaire. Then they buy me coffee. #artstech0
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Douglas Reside up next. First digital curator of the arts. @nypl Off to a good start. #artstech0
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• @dougreside dropping the digital forensics knowledge at #ArtsTech0
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Doug Reside: “How do you document real life?” 1st digital curator of performing arts at NYPL #artstech0
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Digital curation is caring for the collection. Curator is primarily responsible for selecting and explaining work #artstech0
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I wonder if I should write a craigslist missed connection about how I’m not at #artstech0
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Wonder if I could be a #digital curator?
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“Digital curation is the act of caring for a collection.” – @nypl Digital Curator Douglas Reside #ArtsTech0
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😉 RT @jtzl: @artfagcity @vajiajia it was surprising to go from “use descriptive file names” to screen scraping w/ python libs. #ArtsTech0
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RT @VAJIAJIA: “Digital curation is the act of caring for a collection.” – @nypl Digital Curator Douglas Reside #ArtsTech0
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Yes! Shout out to @WillNoel and @walters_museum and the Archimedes Palimpsest. #oldthings #ArtsTech0
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Reside: first prayer book – transcribing the “under text” (cool) // Jefferson’s our fellow subjects changed to citizens! ha #artstech0
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Currently talking about using tech to better read text in manuscripts. #artstech0
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@dougreside gives shout out to awesomeness of @WillNoel & @walters_museum http://www.archimedespalimpsest.org/. #artstech #musetech0
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RT @artfagcity: Digital curation is caring for the collection. Curator is primarily responsible for selecting and explaining work #artstech0
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Jefferson’s typo on declaration of independence: “subjects” instead of “citizens”.
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Thomas Jefferson originally wrote “our fellow subjects” instead of “our fellow citizens” in the Declaration of Independence. Damn. #artstech0
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Oh floppy discs!
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Now when I see a floppy disk, I think “hoarder” #ArtsTech0
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.@benfinoradin Will have to add Derrida to office hours I guess. #ArtsTech cc @VAJIAJIA @artfagcity @MetEveryday @juliaxgulia0
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Love this floppy disk narrative from @nypl Douglas Reside #ArtsTech0
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Macpower book 3G called the “rosetta stone” cause it can read all kinds of discs. #artstech0
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Nothing impresses me more than an encyclopedic knowledge of Aladdin #artstech0
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Not sure if I got the name of that laptop right. It doesn’t look like a macbook. #artstech0
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“Modern OS’s write nasty things to discs”
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Digital palimpsests on floppies. “Mac PowerBook Wall st ed g3 is the Rosetta stone” @nypl perf arts preservationist @dougreside #ArtsTech0
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@artfagcity That was a MacBook from when Steve Jobs wasn’t with Apple. #ArtsTech0
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#ArtsTech The Rosetta Machine for archivists! Mac Powerbook G3 has interchangeable drives supporting floppy,Zip,and optical. Brilliant.0
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Good to know. RT @JustJon: @artfagcity That was a MacBook from when Steve Jobs wasn’t with Apple. #ArtsTech0
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#ArtsTech folks absolutely follow @UMD_MITH http://mith.umd.edu/. 1 of most important #digitalhumanities centers in the country! #musetech0
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The Microsoft Word Palimpsest – #ArtsTech0
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#ArtsTech Loved the story/anecdote about under text in files.0
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Doug Reside is showing floppy disks owned by the Aladdin lyricist in ’95. computing history + memories of childhood = nerd joy! #ArtsTech0
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Reside: “If you remember floppy disks…” I remember. I have mine own “museum” of obsolete tech. #artstech0
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So into the mysteries of under text! #ArtsTech0
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Douglas Reside tells an amazing story of discovering an unaltered digital file + edits at the bottom, due to the way Word saved #artstech0
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Loved, LOVED Douglas Reside’s presentation. #artstech0
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Streaming #ArtsTech in Bloomington. @thereforesamiam I’m jealous you’re there. So much archivy inspo for Miller House & Garden Collection.0
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#ArtsTech Would love to see transcripts of how my tweets get edited while I compose them. #messybrain0
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Am so happy there’s a panel. Douglas Reside’s presentation was wonderful: opened the door to a whole new world #artstech0
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@DanFriedman_ says “It’s not a real digital asset if it doesn’t have have embedded #metadata.” #artstech #musetech #digitalpreservation0
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I LOVE the idea of Rosetta machines – gotta start saving hardware #artstech0
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#ArtsTech (1/3) We annually generate more information than archivists can possibly sift through, on social media, youtube, URLs, etc…0
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#ArtsTech (2/3)..”Curation” may limit archiving to what we deem important Now. How do we inclusively conserve on the order of exabytes…0
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#ArtsTech (3/3)…without discarding cultural artifacts that future generations might benefit from having around?0
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Lots of digital/archaeology metaphors tonight #artstech0
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Desiree Leary asks how long we should preserve art. #artstech.0
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Christiane Paul says she’s surprised with how willing contemporary arts are to let art go. #artstech.0
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Christiane Paul mentions students who are very willing to let art works go. Very alien to art world proper. #ArtsTech0
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.@benfinoradin talks about how Mark Tribe talked about how artists in the 90’s also didn’t care for the conservation but now do. #artstech0
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Must confront questions of ephemera and art history when looking at digital preservation. (We do this with the physical too.) #ArtsTech0
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“When you’re young… Romantic notions of letting web projects die?” Oh come on @benfinoradin #ArtsTech0
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Mention of Cory Arcangel’s Dogoogle (search engine that brings back doogie houser results) still gets a laugh. #artstech0
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Christiane Paul mentioning new media students’ new work that’s very similar to past work but she can’t show due to inoperability. #ArtsTech0
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“Every work is ephemeral.” Hear hear. #artstech0
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Artists mourn the loss of their digi work now, when earlier they didn’t (think) they cared @benfinoradin #artstech http://twitter.com/carla_gannis/status/213070715061145600/photo/10
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The temporality of “letting it go” with electronic art stayed alive in young artists. Aging media artists now advocate archiving. #ArtsTech0
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.@carla_gannis @benfinoradin Only those go who begin to fear their own mortality. #artstech0
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Tibetan monks spend 2 weeks making sand mandalas and then ceremonially dispose of it symbolizing impermanence #artstech http://hypenc.com/2010/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tibetan-Sand-Mandala.jpg0
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Christiane Paul says every work is ephemeral. Painting just takes longer to deteriorate than a digital work of art. #ArtsTech0
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@ManBartlett @carla_gannis @benfinoradin that’s it exactly. fear of being forgotten. no archive = death. #ArtsTech0
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@ryarchives & @dougreside participated in my #MCN2011 #digitalhumanities in #museums @YouTube panel http://goo.gl/g91Az #artstech #musetech0
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@ManBartlett @benfinoradin “dematerialization of the art object” About 60,000 Google results #artstech0
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Also I think it’s important to not take a singular approach, like @benfinoradin is saying now. #preservation #artstech0
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“It’s about the artist’s intent, not what a curator wants to preserve.” – Christiane Paul #ArtsTech0
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I always forget about artist intent. The Aztecs would want open access to their manuscripts. Right, @drnandico?#Precolumbian #ArtsTech0
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@artfagcity @benfinoradin and artist by artist. #artstech0
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Importance of artist interviews and follow-up revisions = to buck the trend of over interpretation and curatorial premise #ArtsTech0
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Third party platforms are just another unstable form @benfinoradin #artstech0
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#ArtsTech When Geocities closed down, ArchiveTeam came to the rescue http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Main_Page0
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Great point about the inevitable demise of proprietary social media sites and what that means for the work. #artstech0
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I am unofficially renaming tonight’s program on digital archiving “IOLO”: Internet Only Lives Once #ArtsTech0
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Piracy is power #artstech0
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“if there are enough people that love a work of art, it will stay alive.” @dougreside #ArtsTech #DigitalConservation #digitalcuration0
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If “Artist intent supersedes everything & equally important for digital art” — then what are the legal obligations of the owner? #ArtsTech0
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#ArtsTech Every medium lives in denial of its own impermanence0
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Lots of art in history that was made on impermanent materials. If people love it they will find a way to preserve it. #artstech Doug Reside0
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@benfinoradin says “Third party proprietary platforms are ultimately just unstable media.” #artstech #digitalpreservation #digitalcuration0
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@benfinoradin: Archivists = Organized Pirates #ArtsTech0
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I appreciate @dougreside’s perspective that we’ve been making preservation decisions forever. It’s not new because it’s digital. #ArtsTech0
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If a work is loved enough, it will stay alive. But what if the artist intended it to die with the platform? #ArtsTech0
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Audience questions now. #artstech0
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“Love will find a way.” – Doug Reside of @nypl basically, survival of the most popular #ArtsTech0
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Question: Does Rhizome work with Olia Lialina and Dragan Espenschied to archive geocities amateur art? #artstech0
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I wonder if Alan Lomax faced similar issues with his field recordings. Just try stopping a passionate archivist from archiving. #ArtsTech0
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@kgunette @manbartlett @benfinoradin Cellular degeneration equals our death. The art is posterity …for others in the future. #artstech0
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Um what’s the difference between digital conservation and digital preservation? #artstech0
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RT @ArtsTechMeetup: Ai Weiwei says Tweeting is his art in a language version http://slate.me/JRdyVe via @Slate #ArtsTech0
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RT @ManBartlett: Um what’s the difference between digital conservation and digital preservation? #artstech0
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Digital conservation in 2012: proactively building data capture (and data repositories) into the artwork itself. @benfinoradin #ArtsTech0
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@benfinoradin says “bake in your #digitalpreservation into production process – set it & forget it!” #artstech #digitalcuration #musetech0
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Speaking of that Library of Congress Twitter archive, anyone know the actual status of that project? #artstech0
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Man, this #artstech panel on digital conservation is killer.0
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@artfagcity I agree! Loving it. #ArtsTech0
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Hey #ArtsTech: have you seen the site for the movie Space Jam, untouched since 1996? It ain’t art, but it’s still here http://www2.warnerbros.com/spacejam/movie/jam.htm0
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hot tip from @benfinoradin http://thinkupapp.com/
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Hey @librarycongress! MT @ManBartlett Speaking of Library of Congress @Twitter archive, anyone know actual status of that project? #artstech0
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There’s a lot at stake with every legislative act today. Christiane Paul #artstech0
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Listening to this panel, I realize that digital literacy is more than knowing how to navigate Facebook settings. #artstech0
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My ideal is that new media is collected and preserved just like every other piece of art – Christiane Paul #artstech0
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My ideal is that new media is collected like any other art. Behind the scenes all museums are working on it. Christiane Paul #artstech0
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#ArtsTech It’s a teensy thing, but the word “digital native” is a colonial term0
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Pro Tip: The Internet Archive is an iceberg of digital humanities content – @benfinoradin #artstech #DigitalConservation #digitalcuration0
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Our society is obsessed with permanence because #art is a #commodity.
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#artstech the cost of archiving is less now than now than anytime in history0
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.@benfinoradin identifies NEH as an amazing source of funding for digital projects. #artstech0
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Internet Archive & other institutions developing tools & practices for digital archive preservation. NEH is funding many of them #artstech0
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The NEH provides grant-funding for digital archiving projects #protip – @benfinoradin #ArtsTech0
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#artstech Also great dramatic lighting. #goodnight0
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Does digitizing magnetic tapes qualify as digital preservation? I think not. Magnetic tape is its own archival medium. ANALOG. #artstech0
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RT @ManBartlett: Great point about the inevitable demise of proprietary social media sites and what that means for the work. #artstech0
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Sad I’m not around for the post #artstech drinks.0
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Note to self: come to #ArtsTech fully charged next time. Outta juice.0
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@eyebeamnyc @artfagcity From across the digital divide I raise my wine glass to you! #ArtsTech0
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i <3 #ArtsTech, thank you for coming at this with all cylinders firing /cc @juliaxgulia @benfinoradin @ManBartlett0
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#Artstech friends follow @NEH_ODH for grants & important initiatives in #digitalhumanities http://www.neh.gov/divisions/odh. #musetech0
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My digital archive of the #artstech meetup about digital archiving @sueapfe @jedmoch @lindsay_howard @megannewcome
http://www.backspac.es/r/Mkar2SjomR
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Big thanks to @juliaxgulia, Ryan Donaldson, @lindsay_howard, & the entire #ArtsTech crew for organizing a great #DigitalConservation convo!0
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@eyebeamnyc @juliaxgulia @lindsay_howard So fab! I am hooked! #ArtsTech0
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Genuinely 🙁 to miss tonight’s #artstech. Thx for the docutweets @rflouty, @artfagcity, @zoesalditch. @benfinoradin & Christiane=#WINNING.0
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Seems like I missed some great conversations at #ArtsTech this evening. Thanks for all the tweeting!0
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#ArtsTech was fantastic – looking forward to the next one already!0
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incredibly relevant to what we were just discussing at #artstech meetup. “The Anthologist” by @fchimero: http://bit.ly/M5onS8 ht @johnpavlus0
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Is there a point where energy consumption becomes a concern with digital preservation? #ArtsTech Afterthoughts0
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